I don't get why they're making the social workers out to be the criminals

[ladybug]

The Baby P story - why do they keep focussing on the short comings of the social workers, instead of the evil f ckers who committed the crimes?

I know, there have been mistakes made on the part of public services, but really, these individuals aren't the ones who did it. The media, again, are taking focus away from the crux of the issue. I suppose it's easier for people to channel their anger at social workers, than try to tap into the minds of the perpetrators. It just bugs me is all.

[acad]

I hear what your saying, but these people were also there to protect this little boy, and they failed BIG time. They made numourous visits to that house and they didn't pick up on anything, what were they blind ? Thick ?.

[ladybug]

There must be more to it. It's very difficult to understand stories in the media when we only get half of it.

[isabellasmum]

My SIL is a manager of social workers and they get a tough time.

She says it is incredibly hard to have a child removed from their parents and most of the time they recommend it the court refuses the move on lack of evidence. She says it is heartbreaking what kids go through and they know they would be world better off without the parents but they can't do it that easily and there are channels/processes.

People want to blame someone but it isn't the social workers fault that those evil people hurt that poor baby and it sounds like they took great pains to hide what was happening.

[BenandBellasMummy]

A few things I guess, partly because the mother and boyfriend are on bail atm, it will probably blow up about them when they are sentenced, their names are being circulated on the internet and they are receiving death threats.

Also because they messed up, Baby P was horribly let down by his mother who should have been there to protect him not abuse him but we have a system which is also supposed to protect children to save them when they cannot help themselves. This system also let him down; but not by not being there (which I think would have caused less of a furore) but by not acting, the police wanted him removed but social services overruled, one social worker had a foster family arranged but was overruled. They visited 60 times I've read articles on the state if the house, the behaviour of his mother, the bottom line is they didn't do their job, their lack of action led to his death, if they had acted as the police or one of the social workers wanted Baby P would not have died.

Just as an aside, maybe it's because the vast majority of people cannot comprehend the behaviour of the mother or the two men, don't want to hear/know what they did; but are prepared to readand then complain about the other agencies who let him down xxx

[rhianwen]

watchinbg this in panorama last night there was a heck of alot of deception by the parents the boyfriend was made out to be not living there and social services only met him once. Baby Ps mum seemed to be very willing to let social services help and at one point when a social worker wanted him removed it was overrulled. There are many people to blame but ultimaly the mum and boyfirend where the ones who killed him and should get all that comes to them. It seems like there is alot of communiction break down between police social services and mangerment. And like what jeremy vine said at the end 1 child a week die of violence related abuse in familys it sick and so hard to catch the peole who do it

[Snookie]

Originally Posted by BenandBellasMummy

their names are being circulated on the internet and they are receiving death threats.

Good!

I am so upset about this case and on Panorama last night they said one child a week dies because of abuse in the UK... that is appalling.

I'm angry at the social workers because it is their job to protect the children whose parents are evil. The social workers themselves are angry and devastated about the death of this little boy but it was management and paperwork etc that prevented them saving him. The system needs to change so that these people have the power to immediately remove children at risk, I know that they have to build a sound case but this case seems to have had major failings.

[Imosmummy]

i find it absolutely impossible that the social workers, doctors, health visitors to name but a few didn't think he was in danger when he was covered in bruises (not always covered with chocolate) had a tooth missing, hole in the head, finger tip missing, not able to move his lower body and no doubt and very sad looking baby who must have cried from the pain. Any idiot would know that he was being abused, that's why he was on the at risk register (he was also living with a known paedophile, why did they let this happen? God knows what else happened to that child) but just like the case with little victoria then let it carry on because they were scared of the parents and any repercussions.
Also i know this might sound harsh but i cant help but put some of the blame at the 15 year old that saw alot of this happen but didnt report it. Yes she probably was scared of the parents but how can she now report to seeing the poor angel being picked up by the throat and thrown into his cot head first, be hit in the groin to name just a few of the evil acts he suffered but do nothing? I sure as hell i would have reported that regardless of only being 15., and am sure you all would of. No doubt she is traumatised by what she saw but i believe she should have spoken up and he might have been saved.
Social workers do have one of the hardest jobs, seeing things like that on a daily basis but thats what they are there for, to protect vulnerable children and once again (the same people) failed, how many more children have suffered the same fate?
There has to be more training and there is about to be more powers added to make it easier to protect children, which should help save a few more children from misery

[rachaelmae]

I dont know enough to comment, i have purposely not read about this case.

The only people to blame are the people that committ a crime, yes there are systems in place to help people and protect people but they are not foolproof, people this evil do not make it obvious what they are doing and s/w have to be able to prove abuse... which does sound easy but when you see some injurys some kids sustain anyway it is difficult....

do you remember the cases in the 90s i think, in isle of wight?? where kids were removed from there familys due to having nappy rash (social services claim it was sign of abuse..) and the kids were removed and some never went home... it was later proven that no abuse was present but mud sticks...

its an emotive subject and people want to blame someone.
xx

ive just read some about it, and its awful nobody ever should suffer like baby P did, even the gran didnt seem to know how bad it was, the people involved are evil.

[acad]

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